Talk:SSR Tier List (Early)/@comment-121.6.127.250-20161005044713/@comment-121.6.127.250-20161005071428

OP here, yes @The Fool -o-, exactly what I'm saying, if it's a matter of how we play, then you should display both sides of the coin (The western as well as the jap). I start dashed with Heles, and not doubt she carried me up to HL. Usually, in HL, we either do it with guild or pub, with of course, tweetdeck saying what classes is needed.

I don't get why you're talking about having the same character for line-up. I just talking about the ability of hers. Even if same character lines up, this guide is telling people not to choose her, which means higher chance of the same line-up because of higher probability with heles being out of the list.​ I'm just showing how much more useful she can be

Yeah, there's a japanese tier list as well. She's A-tiered. In VH battles (i.e. farming for meat, gw), her Autumnal can literally knock that crap out of OD. She's not exactly useful in HL as her kit is kinda tricky unless you know what you're doing and could cover up for her. Her kit is also quite solid for EX battles.

She's placed so low on this tier because that's how the western players rate her. It's different from the japanese players. Most of the western players have a mob-mentality mindset, hate for no reason.